Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Together Foundation: Keystone Cops abolitionists


Pity the hapless Together Foundation. First they jumped on the slavery in Tindouf story without enough evidence, then they lost their entire board of advisors. The latest bad news is that they can't keep even keep important evidence straight. From the Foundation's news page, March 30th:
Meeting with alleged Sahrawi slaves in Mauritania.

We were contacted by two people who alleged that they were Sahrawi slaves from the refugee camps. Our president met them in Nouakchott, Mauritania, early February, received their statements and recorded the answers of one of them.

On the way back to New York the tape mysteriously disappeared from the luggage. Therefore the Foundation has a rather stunning report, which cannot be verified by direct testimony.
They had proof of Sahrawi slavery, but they lost it! What are the chances? The Together Foundation would be modern day John Browns and William Lloyd Garrisons if it weren't for their darned butterfingers.

16 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:47 PM

    Tindouf Camps: Astonishing Numbers
    Written by Khalid Ibrahim Khaled
    Wednesday, 20 February 2008
    No one seems able to give a reliable estimate of the sahraouis living in Tindouf camps run by the Polisario Front with the support of Algeria.
    70.000, 140.000, 160.000, 50.000...and the international community, as well as the human organizations have to be satisfied with the figures given by the revolutionary movement.
    This situation lasts for almost 32 years and nobody is ready to address it in a scientific way in spite of available handy tools, in particular the satellite imagery.
    For its readers, Polisario Confidential did the count on the basis of undisputed key elements.

    In the Seventies, according to the most reliable estimates, the number of sahraouis established in Tindouf is ten thousands. By adding the regional demographic averages, i.e. an average of the Moroccan, Mauritanian and Algerian fertility rates, an average of the death rate as well as an average of the population structure, we obtain the following results: from 1975 to 2003, the average population of the area almost doubled, passing from 17 million to 32 million for Algeria, 17, 5 million to 31 million for Morocco and finally 1, 4 million to 2, 9 million for Mauritania. Now let us apply this scientific ratio to the established sahraouies populations in Tindouf. Of almost 10 000 people in 1975, we should approach 20.000 people in 2003. However, this calculation would not be exhaustive if one does not add to it the populations who join in during the Sahara war, approximately 15.000 people. This increases the number to nearly 25.000 sahraouis in 1980, which should give us a figure of almost 47000 people in 2003.
    The total people living in the Tindouf camps should be about fifty thousands in 2008.
    If the figures advanced by the Polisario Front, with for objective to receive a consequent humanitarian aid were accurate, it would have been necessary that each woman gets pregnant 3, 4 times a year and that life expectancy is of 98 years

    that's what i call real slavery

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  2. Anonymous11:03 PM

    Together Foundation is just an example of what Moroccan proganda can do and its terrible efforts to spread lies.

    Yes, tapes were stolen in Casablanca and pigs can fly too!

    Did'nt Violeta saying that her tapes were stolen in the refugee camps!

    What the hell is going on. It seems that theives has a peculiar taste for these peoples video tapes!

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  3. Anonymous2:09 AM

    "Polisario Confidential did the count on the basis of undisputed key elements. In the Seventies, according to the most reliable estimates, the number of sahraouis established in Tindouf is ten thousands."

    No, 10000 was the figure advanced by Morocco. The Red Cross said 50000...

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  4. Anonymous2:39 AM

    Oh yeh. Who are you kidding! Satellite imageries counting the number of people in the camps.

    Yes I can imagine that Satellites sneaking in Saharawi tents and doing a census!

    But have those satellites people who Morocco held in Gueleat Megouna, Tazmamaret, Agdez and Derb Moulay Cherif.

    These are secret dungeons where Saharawis and Moroccan political prisoners were held for around 20 years. No one knew where they were or whether they were dead or alive!

    Will the satellites also count the number of political detainees held in Moroccan notorious jails such as the Black Prison in the Capital of Western Sahara El Aiun?

    Will the Satellites also count the number of places and concubines or shall we say boy friends that king Mohamed VI has?

    Will the Satellites count the money of the Moroccan Generals in Western Sahara made out of Saharawi fishing and phosphates as wellas drug smuglling from Latin America?

    But the Satellites will only count the Saharawis but will not reflect their sufferings and the theft of their homeland by an absolute and dreadful monarchy.

    Because those satellites are biased and used by Moroccan lobby in the USA to cause damage to the Saharawi people and their legitimate cause.

    They won't succeed because justice and the truth will overcome Moroccan greed and evil designs.

    SAHARA IS NOT FOR SALE. It is dear for its people and they’ve given great sacrifices for it.

    Don't forget that Saharawis wherever they are will continue to struggle for their freedom and independence.

    Moroccans and lobbyists go home.

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  5. Laroussi5:19 AM

    "Polisario Confidential" is way off target.

    In 2003 the World Food Programme (WFP) estimated the population of the Saharawi refugee camps in Algeria to 158.000 people.

    "The Government (the Algerian one) estimates the refugee population at 165,000. WFP and the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) carried out a population assessment during their joint mid-term evaluation in September 2003. Using child vaccination and primary school attendance records together with the list of eligible voters
    compiled by the United Nations Mission for the Referendum in Western Sahara, they concluded that the total number of refugees was closer to 158,000."

    See page 5, section 4 in the following pdf-file http://www.wfp.org/eb/docs/2004/wfp029993~2.pdf.

    Polisario Confidential is off course completely free to publish this information. ;)

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  6. Anonymous9:13 AM

    The 158,000 refugees receiving WFP aid represent those judged to be "vulnerable" (children and women of childbearing age and old people). 165,000 is the total number of refugees. I believe this figure may include members of the Saharawi army, for example, who are not eligible for food aid.

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  7. Laroussi12:00 PM

    "The 158,000 refugees receiving WFP aid represent those judged to be 'vulnerable'"

    No, "anonymous". The WFP does not say anything in reference to the figure of 158,000 about vulnerable refugees. It is their estimation of the total population in the camps.

    Since the WFP includes eligible voters in their refugee count, this would also include a large number of the male population - including those who are in the army.

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  8. Anonymous12:42 PM

    Malian newspaper "Lobe" said that Tindouf camps in Algeria is "a place deprived of rights and humanity", and where "undignified practices going back to slavery era " are still prevailing


    In commenting the 2007 United States report on slavery, the Malian newspaper said that Polisario in the Tindouf camps exercises on Algerian soil "the most egregious practices at the expense of the dignity of people.

    The paper pointed out that "the separatist movement continues to violate the rights of thousands of children, through systematic deportation towards Cuba, as a way to put pressure on their families in the Lhmada camps "

    In the context of the practices that perpetuated slavery separatists, the newspaper mentioned the statements made recently by Alastralian reporters Daniel Fallshaw and Violetta Ayala and on "the continuation of these practices in the camps of shame"

    The newspaper added that " journalists could witness discrimination between black slaves and their white masters during their stay last May in Tindouf, adding that that the journalists themselves were detained by Polisario to "prevent them from exposing the reality of slavery" in Tindouf

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  9. Much as I trust the Lobe, I need more evidence than just what Fallshaw-Ayala said. Incidentally, if Polisario Confidential is so tough and accurate, it'd open itself up to comments like I do.

    @second anonymous: I wouldn't be that surprised if Fallshaw/Ayala lost some of their tapes. They were detained by Polisario for a few hours, after all.

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  10. Anonymous8:26 PM

    Will

    Vileta/Fallshaw never said tha Polisario confiscated any of their tapes.

    So your comment is a bit surprising!

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  11. Anonymous11:56 PM

    I believe Fallshaw/Ayala are in the making of their documentary. I found this on the net...
    BORN IN CAPTIVITY
    United Notions Film
    Producer: Tom Zubrycki
    Directors: Violeta Ayala, Daniel Fallshaw
    Synopsis: Australian filmmakers Daniel Fallshaw and Violeta Ayala go to the Saharawi refugee camps in the Algerian desert to make a film about the human price of the long lasting political conflict in the Western Sahara, and find a society where slavery still exists. Through the prism of one family, Born in Captivity will provide an honest picture of this society today - a place where slaves cannot decide their fate, political leaders pretend to be unaware and organisations like the UN stand by and do nothing.
    If they didn't have their material, how they will be making this?

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  12. I don't mean Polisario took the tapes. I mean there was an ordeal so I wouldn't be surprised if they lost some things.

    I don't even know why I'm talking about this, really--apparently some tapes got out of Tindouf, because they, or what they're supposed to be, keeps showing up on Youtube.

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  13. Anonymous3:48 AM

    Who is this guy?

    Producer: Tom Zubrycki

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  14. Anonymous3:51 AM

    http://www.tomzubrycki.com/about.html
    Tom Zubrycki has earned an international reputation for his substantial and widely-respected body of documentaries. He works mainly in an observational style and his films are narrative-based and strongly character-driven.

    His latest film Temple of Dreams, about the struggle of a group of young Muslim Australians to keep open a youth centre in Sydney's west had its international premiere at the Sydney International Film Festival in June 2007.

    His earlier films include Molly & Mobarak (2003) – a story about a relationship between a young Afghani refugee and a school-teacher in an Australian country town. Molly & Mobarak opened the Margaret Mead Film Festival (2003), and was screened in the Joris Ivens competition at IDFA (2003).

    Molly & Mobarak film takes up the themes of displacement, identity and the search for home – ideas that he been exploring since the 90's in films such as Homelands (1993) and Billal (1996).

    In 2000 he completed The Diplomat a documentary about Jose Ramos-Horta, the exiled East Timorese freedom-fighter and the final two years of his quarter-century campaign to achieve independence for his country. The film won two Australian Film Institute Awards - Best Director and Best Documentary.

    His other films have included The Secret Safari (2002, 52 mins), Lord of the Bush (1990, 55 mins), Bran Nue Dae (1991, 55 mins), Friends and Enemies (1987, 90 mins), Kemira – Diary of a Strike(1984, 62 mins) and Waterloo (1981, 48 min).

    Tom also works as a producer mentoring emerging filmmakers. His credits include Exile in Sarajevo (1996, International Emmy for Best Documentary), Whiteys Like Us (1998), Dr Jazz (1999), Stolen Generations (2000), Making Venus (2001), Gulpilil - One Red Blood (2002), The Prodigal Son (2005), A Fighting Chance (2007).

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  15. i can see that algerians and thier backed torrorist group polisario, likes alying with words, the first thing, western sahara is moroccan,lear more about histrical facts before believing lies. second morocco fight and with fight forever terrorists, is for that algerians and thier allies polisario, says that the god of moroccans is bush,Morocco protect the europe back door from terror, whey because morocco,was there alays to help,60000 soldiers to fight against hitler, morocco is the only country who accepted to help jew in 1300, spanish expultion, so don't talk about something you don't know next time, believe the hstorical right of morocco to recover his territory

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